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"I wonder who killed Charlie Kirk?"
I don't know... Maybe it was the political faction that immediately celebrated his death openly and publicly by the hundreds of thousands within the first day?
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Somehow it is inconceivable to anyone on the political right that anyone might actually mean what they say about politics and actually be willing to fight for any of the things they claim to be willing to fight for.
(and yes... basically every plausible conspiracy theory that an intel agency was involved is that they enabled the leftist trans cell that formed, not faked it and somehow pinned it on a patsy that looks exactly like the super secret agent in the security footage and somehow had no alibi)
Maybe Right Wingers could just look at the people saying "We hate you, we want you dead, and we are committing violence against you" and right wingers could think that they're committing violence against you, and maybe they hate you, and they want you dead… and maybe you should hate them back?
What did you think "Civil War" meant? Vibes? Essays?
Right Wingers can't even process the Vibes when they're screamed at them by the 100,000 in the least subtle way imaginable.
"No you get it, the evil secret second shooter wants us divided"
Yuh huh... Did the black guy who stabbed Iryna Zarutska want you divided as well? How about the grooming gangs who gang raped white girls before cutting them up and serving them in Kebabs?
Were those really carried out by glowies trying to divide you as well? Was the Kebab market rigged from the start? Was there a second psycho black guy behind Iryna?
I'm becoming convinced conspiracy theories are the way Boomers were programmed into fighting for nothing and surrendering everything.... There always has to be some secret second inscrutable intention out there by a hidden nebulous something.... which means it is never time to fight the enemy in front of them, never time to radicalize, never time to do anything!
You'd think a conspiracy theory that posited the president was killed in a palace coup or the nation was attacked by an intel agency or foreign country that had succeeded in ending American democracy and corrupting the American justice system such that nothing could ever be done or no justice ever achieved via legal means... would demand that justice be achieved by illegal and revolutionary means instead.
If the state's monopoly on violence is corrupted to serve evil... would it not be time to break that monopoly? To enter that monopolized market with a new disruptive innovations, so to speak.
If the government is a usurper regime that doesn’t represent you, and is dressing up tyranny under cover of a barely feigned playact of legitimacy… Well you’re American, what did your founders do in such a situation?
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Yet Even as millions of leftists openly celebrate this shooting and wish for more of them to happen, and openly state that they'll see any who commit said shootings as heroes worth celebrating....
It is inconceivable to the Right Winger that immortal fame, their own sincerest convictions, true hatred, the judging eyes of their political forefathers, and the celebration of MILLIONS might actually be worth doing or risking something over.
It can't be the case that some guy or his friend group decided to just commit violence for what they believed in... like every single noteworthy and noble, and many ignoble, persons in history... Because it is inconceivable to the right winger that he could or might ever fight or do anything... for anything.
Even as 100,000 white girls have been murdered by blacks since 1960, and millions have been cumulatively raped across the US and Europe, and 10s of millions of foreign hordes invade the west openly proclaiming their desire to replace and genocide white people... and the government openly plots how to create the most totalitarian surveillance pan-opticon ever imagined in any regime in history…
It is inconceivable to any right winger that ANYONE, not even the most aggressive, despairing, youthful, or even delusional, might be willing to pull a trigger on a person that embodies everything threatening their way of life.
It has to be a glowie!
It is not imaginable to the "tough" "manly" "frontiersman" right wing conservative, that they or anyone in a nation of 340 million might have the nerve, daring, rage, and self-sacrifice of a delusional 22 year-old SSRI'd tranny-chasing cocksucker.
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The Right winger can only conceive of one possible response to the mass rape of his people, their ethnic cleansing from the cities their ancestors built, horrifying slaughters attested to daily, and the financial and social enslavement of their own people and sons via the most aggressive taxing, regulating, surveilling, and ethnically discriminatory regime in history (Jim Crow didn't stop all black tech companies forming or force black men to be excluded from 90% of new corporate hires)… Yet the right winger has just once response:
Just sit back and pay taxes and keep his head down whilst serving the enemies who hate him and paying for their six figure salaries in government employment whilst waiting for more people to "wake up"… Even as they brainwash his kids to hate him, and “cut ties”, and cut their genitals off.
Just wait bro, more people need to wake up!
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Kennedy was shot 60 year ago. The first people to "wake up" are in nursing homes.
You've waited so long for people to "wake up" that the majority have fallen back asleep and died of old age.
There are millions of right wingers convinced every election of their lifetime was stollen or rigged, every dollar in taxes ever taken was illegitimate, that their kids have been purposefully poisoned by their enemies, that the Founders would have been stacking bodied 100 times over by now... Who've lived 70+ years and are now dying of some miserable cancer and have nothing left to live for...
And even THEY have ZERO intention of doing anything or using their last gasp of life to fight for anything… at all.
"The timing isn't right. But the optics? They want us to react! More people need to wake up."
Its been 60 years! YOU'RE IN A NURSING HOME! They're putting the guy who woke you up into a medically induced coma.
This is why the left wins... Because their limp wristed, delusional, and incompetent attempts to actually do something are still stronger than right wingers whinging and deciding to do nothing.
An actual Constitutional right, committed not to libertarian pacifism, but to the frontier violence and hatreds that the Founders embodied, could have retaken American cities, reversed the mass migration, repealed the 64 civil rights act, ended the income tax, said NO to lockdowns, strung up the people behind the vax mandates, and given every trueborn citizen the cheapest housing imaginable...
If anyone on the right had simply been WILLING TO FIGHT… for anything.
That is actual fighting. Not Democracy-brained metaphorical fighting where you claim to be "fighting" whilst insisting you won't even raise your voice or insult your enemies with the words that will actually offend them… let alone throw a fist or swing a weapon... or anything any generation before 1964 would actually call "fighting".
"We have to fight this evil unconstitutional tyranny that will enslave our children! Also Why are you dividing us with this talk of violence and not staying peaceful!? The founders wouldn't want you fighting evil unconstitutional tyranny that way."
Bro, the founders shot their own men in the back for failing to charge.
We even have the letters the young George Washington wrote his superiors for special permission to pay his soldiers for scalping white men.
Yet despite the founding generation, and the 4 generations on either side of them in both directions being amongst the most violent people to have ever walked the earth… "Constitutional Conservatives" who allegedly admire the founders think "VIOLENCE IS NEVER THE ANSWER"... betraying that they've never in their life advanced in moral philosophy beyond the words of their second grade teacher. That the theology of their churches is no different from the words said in Sunday school to make toddlers shut-up and be quiet.
Conservatives will willing discredit the Christian religion in the eyes of all subsequent generations, sooner than have any nerve or fight for anything, or merely state that violence for what you believe in is good and justified (as indeed basically every white westerner fought over everything for millennia… Dueling to the death over accusations of being a “scallywag” or other insults). The super-majority of even "conservative" churches will not even raise their voice to insult a homosexual, or call a mother who ripped apart her family for no reason a harlot, or indeed engage in any social conflict or moral denunciation of any person…. For basically anything.
Convicted child molesters have an easier time being welcomed to Christian Churches than “racists” or “radicals” who believe dangerous and hateful things like that the Lutheran Church should listen to and head the teachings of Martin Luther.
Indeed the ONLY ideological or lifestyle crime in any christian church that would ever garner censor is not even Theological heresy (quibble about the trinity all you like) but temperamental traditionalism "How dare you quote the biblical passages on homosexuality or adultery in earshot of the church ladies"... How dare you quote our sect’s own founder? How dare you suggest anything on earth might be worth fighting for of your own initiative?
And certainly how dare you cause a social conflict.
True conviction is alien to modern Right Wing Conservatives.
The idea that anyone might have such a conviction is alien.
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Indeed even as MILLIONS of left wingers plainly demonstrate that wishing death and violence on your enemy in America is no crime, there are no consequences to it, it does not reliably even get you banned from social media (It doesn’t, direct insults do… abstract endorsements of violence don’t)... You can just endorse violent action and methods in the US. And even in the UK and commonwealth you can circumspectly apply the ideological euphemisms that a million ideological leftists and fascists have endorsed before. “Direct Actions” “Appropriations” “Corrective Measures” “Reformative incidents”
That just like 200 years worth of famous socialists and progressives, you can just abstractly follow your ideology to the logical conclusions... of nearly openly espousing violence, openly wishing for the revolution, openly wishing death upon your ideological enemies, openly preparing you ethos and your doctrine for how such violence will occur, and openly psyching up your comrades and followers for revolutionary struggle for liberation or "liberation".... And of obscuring it with words like “struggle” or “liberationist action” where your enemies are paranoid or abstract ambiguity might save you from legal struggle.
And basically they can't stop you... The most senior of your ideologues might get arrested for a few years, then come out only to get millions in donations... If they go away for a decade you can give them tenure at one of your institutes as a reward....
And if they actually do something and die or are captured in the attempt like Sacco and Vanzetti, or the Rosenberg, or Che Guevera, or Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht... You can just celebrate them as martyrs to the cause and immortalize their names no matter how traitorous and guilty they are by the standards of the mainstream justice system or indeed any sane person… And insist that they were actually “innocent” against all evidence if openly endorsing their crimes might not be quite palatable in the social circumstance.
You can just give professorships to the children of your allies who were executed as traitors.... The Rosenbergs’ sons got Tenure in payment for their parents service.
You can just say they were completely innocent and didn't do nothin’ and then also worship them as icons and martyrs of the coming revolution they totally didn’t contribute anything to…
You can just do things.
And yet...
Even after their friend is openly assassinated... even after this is celebrated by millions...
EVERY SINGLE right wing commentator jumps out with one voice.
"We have to stay peaceful"
"Violence isn't the answer"
"We have to denounce political violence"
No you don't. You don’t have to denounce political violence.
There are 1000s of warlords in the world on any given day who raped children and killed innocent people... THAT VERY DAY.
You don't go about denouncing them. You don't have time to! It’d take to long to get through them.
There are a million actual and hypothetical present and future private and military violent actions that could be carried at any given time in the future... do you denounce that violence? Do you denounce the Andromeda Galaxy Independence Coalition?
That is also violence which may occur in the future! If you feel the need to denounce the SciFi speculative violence of Right Wing White Westerners fighting back against leftists and foreigner… Why don’t you also feel the need to denounce Ultra-Elonist violent revolution to free Mars from Earth rule? That is also a SciFi scenario that is not happening in the present.
Hell There is violence carried out by the government every day! Do you denounce the IRS and ATF? (actually that you should denounce daily... Press S to Spit… And yet none of these Right Wing commentators do?)
Whilst it may be the case that depending on the country, openly endorsing violence might have legal repercussions… Your positive denunciation of violence is compelled BY NO GOVERNMENT.
You can just stay silent.
As indeed no leftist ever feels the need to denounce the grooming gangs carving up British girls into Kebabs or to admonish channel migrants or black psychopaths that "Hey guys we need to stay peaceful, everyone needs to obey the law"
Yet Right Wing commentators feel the need to entone this with every other breath… “We need to stay peaceful! We must remain lawful!”
What law? The law of the occupational usurper governments that we have? The Governments which tax you to pay the living accommodations of the illegal migrants who rape your daughters? The governments which have anti-discrimination laws MANDATING a certain percentage of all jobs go to black women and illegals even as it is mandated across curriculums that white boys and girls are openly abused by public school teachers and taught they are racially guilty and deserving of their replacement and being held to different more "equitable" harsher and crueler standards than their non-white peers…
You are under no legal obligation to use your breath or take time out of your day or podcast or tweet or discussion to positively endorse non-violence or law-abidingness, and you are certainly under no moral obligation.
If the government wishes people to hear that they must remain peaceful and obey the law… Let the government waste their time and money on some dystopian public service announcement.
You are under no obligation to take your time and money and spend it preemptively spreading that message for free… And I’ll think less of you if you accept money to do it.
If you as a Conservative or Libertarian or Right Winger think that your limited speaking time is best used telling your followers to "remain peaceful" or "remain law abiding" as opposed to using that limited scarce breath you have to advocate literally ANY OTHER political or personal action...
Then I think profoundly less of you.
"Listen you've gotta remember the law, we've gotta remain peaceful"
And also you've gotta remember that Jimmy Buffet really meant a lot to the people of the Florida Keys, and you should try to pick up atleast one piece of litter when you go for walk.
You are just as legally and morally obliged to spend your time spreading those messages as hectoring your followers about some delusional unqualified ahistorical and philosophically bankrupt universal denunciation of violence.
Indeed those messages would be better use of breath on a podcast or in a piece of political writing, since neither Jimmy Buffett nor the individual struggle against litter have discredited themselves so completely as peace and law have.
This is what I think… Maybe depending on the country I can’t quite advocate against peace or law-abidingness, maybe that would trip up some obscure legal precedent if I were to travel to some sub-region of the EU, but it is certainly not worth more of my breath and time than once again observing the specific regional fondness that those of South Florida seem to have for Mr. Buffett.
Indeed there almost certainly exists some politically unaware South Floridian, Gary we’ll call him, of no civic feeling rising to any advocacy whatsoever… who indeed has never, in his entire life… Not Once! Publicly advocated that we all remain peaceful, law-abiding, and non-violent, that the subject has just never come to Gary’s attention… but Gary, frequenting the various bars of South Florida, has almost weekly observed “Yep, people down here really like Jimmy Buffett”… the most irrelevant, dull, obvious, vapid, and slightly irksome observation one could make.
I can picture Gary in in his floral-print shirt at Margaritaville, eating his cheeseburger in paradise observing once again “Yep people down here really like Jimmy Buffett”… And I admire him that he is doing what all these coward cuck Right Wing commentators are not doing… and is just remaining silent on the question of Right Wing Ultra-violence and not wasting his time and breath creating free public service announcements for the Regime of his enemies.
I aspire to be like Gary. For me personally Gary is something of A Prophet, a Yogi, a wise hermit, an unwitting Guru. I aspire to spend even less time advocating that white westerners remain peaceful, non-violent, and law-abiding.
So far down my ordering of potential topics of conversation and subjects of concern is it… yet not quite as far as it is for Gary.
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This is how disgusting i find the idea that a commentator as a political actor would spend their time advocating against violence from their own side. Speaking in a world where only honor, and force and the willingness to endure all that fortune, death and danger dare has EVER secured the liberty of free people... Such do I think of your reminders to remain peaceful and non-violent… That i consider Gary to be a wise and great political philosopher by comparison. For he atleast is not doing something profoundly counterproductive and stupid…
He’s not denouncing the very idea of politics itself according to every western political tradition, as I’ve written on elsewhere:
The Iron Rule
"Every democratic policy is funded by the threat that if anyone refuses to pay up, an infinitely escalating amount of violence will be used to overcome any and all resistance or avoidance."
Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969) is still the law in the US. If you are American you can just openly endorse political violence… As my friend and podcast guest
openly does, or rather “Political Violence”, in his excellent first piece (follow him):
You don't have to fully endorse violence, you don’t have to go Kawaii Catgirl Crazy… The cute ears aren’t for everyone. that might not be advisable. In your country you may not legally be able to do so... But you can certainly stop denouncing violence.
You can choose to respond the prospect of violence committed by your own allies who wish you well, the same way you'd respond to the prospect of the Congolese Liberation Army taking to the warpath...
With indifference and silence.
You can choose to respond to the assassins and Freikorp actions of those aligned with you the exact way the communists and leftists do, and the exact way right wingers in any of the countries that have played for keeps learnt to think of violence from their own side…
With Silence or dignified quiet celebration.
You can stop pre-betraying your own allies for the crime of thinking they want to defend you.
You can just quietly nod along to their patriotic songs whilst braver people actually do things that matter.
No one ever went to jail for not mentioning border disputes in Burma. And you won't go to jail for not denouncing violence from your own team.
No one in Northern Ireland ever went to jail or got whacked for saying nothing.
Indeed you’d stop undermining your own side’s negotiating position, and actually might win something by not immediately folding and disarming the counter to the left’s and migrants’ implicit threats.
This is what leftists do if you pay attention. Actual regime politicians and people being paid millions by corporate paymasters HAVE to denounce violence now and again, but even figures like Barack Obama and Stephen Colbert will only do it once and then say “I’ve already done so” if asking to denounce any violence again. They won’t let themselves be drawn into counter-signalling their guys or recreating soundbites from defensive position, Jimmy Kimmel didn’t even want to do that. And those are the most establishment institutionalists… most leftists will do absolutely EVERYTHING they can to avoid denouncing violence by their own side.
They'll lie and say the person was innocent or they were really motivated by right wing motives or they’ll say its funny or "play stupid games win stupid prizes"... But they will fight to avoid denouncing violence by their own unless absolutely cornered and forced to... In which case they will denounce it exactly as quietly as they can get away with and never repeat that denunciation, whilst implying as much as they dare that they had not said it and did not mean it if they did.
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They act exactly like an IRA sympathizer who has been cornered and is now being questioned by a British soldier... and they make the whole experience just as awkward and unpleasant for everyone involved.
In this we have much to learn from them and must study of their ways.
You do NOT have to positively denounce violence... And you do not have to raise your voice above the most pained, obstinate, petty, childish, and insincere mutter in the event someone actually hold a gun to your head and forces you to.
"But don't you denounce violence Kulak? Don't you heckin' want things to remain peaceful?"
I don’t know, Jimmy Buffet really mattered to the people of south Florida…
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the Ultra-Elonist Martian Independence Front will not be suppressed by the likes of you earthling dirthuggers!
Thank you! This pretty much details what I have seen for the last several days (aswell other times something of this magnitude happened).
Even today earlier I saw a English man who complains about the state of his country making fun of someone who said that you must kill anyone who enter in your house without your authorization (the context was 2 female officers, one was Muslim who went to detained a kid for social media post), he said things like "this doesn't work in real life you will be arrested keyboard warrior"
It's not the first time I've seen this, I mean if the justice system and the government was subverted to make you unable to defend yourself and your folk legally, so following these rules like if we were just debating ideas in a normal place is suicide.
I also don't understand people saying that they (whoever they might be) want themselves to react, so everyone must be quiet. This is the real fed post, people are literally murdering your group and calling for more and if you do something, you are the wrong one? Anyway I digress.
Good post!