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Just tried to follow you on X. You are suspended.

As foretold.

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"Like bucks who, when the doe has lead them together for their battle, are broken up and prevented from fighting by some insane peacenik old lady..."

First rule of clown world- no matter how retarded you predict things will get, they will get even more retarded. Toxic masculinity and rape culture in the duck pond:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W2p5Gm2FAUM

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"That the only thing they could consistently do is make the unherdable cats act ever more like unherdable cats…"

Years ago a researcher looked into what made people turn far-right/ anti-immigrant. There seems to be a button that gets pushed in peoples' heads, allowing most humans to suddenly acquire behavioral traits that make them suspicious of foreigners and to increase efforts at creating in-group uniformity. I'm sure those at the top have read this or similar, as "how-to fight the right" manuals often mention trying to create wedges in groups.

"When and Why Nationalism Beats Globalism" The American Interest

by JONATHAN HAIDT July 10th, 2016

"In 2005 Stenner published a book called The Authoritarian Dynamic, an academic work full of graphs, descriptions of regression analyses, and discussions of scholarly disputes over the nature of authoritarianism. (It therefore has not had a wide readership.) Her core finding is that authoritarianism is not a stable personality trait. It is rather a psychological predisposition to become intolerant when the person perceives a certain kind of threat. It’s as though some people have a button on their foreheads, and when the button is pushed, they suddenly become intensely focused on defending their in-group, kicking out foreigners and non-conformists, and stamping out dissent within the group. At those times they are more attracted to strongmen and the use of force. At other times, when they perceive no such threat, they are not unusually intolerant. So the key is to understand what pushes that button.

The answer, Stenner suggests, is what she calls “normative threat,” which basically means a threat to the integrity of the moral order (as they perceive it). It is the perception that “we” are coming apart:"

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"...consistently, anything that touches on violence… No matter how little reach it generates, or how little engagement it gets, always… Always… ALWAYS. Somehow generates a “glowie”..."

I used to be on a private chat for Nat Socs, and the opposite came up in an even more obvious way. We were older, long-time Nat Socs so the threads were mostly about exercise, gardening, neighborhood outreach, family stuff, etc. Yet every time there was a violent Happening, there would be a handful of accounts writing a block of text about the need to do stuff now and blow stuff up. Hysterical calls to violence. I'd check the accounts, and they'd be 1+ years old with single digit # of posts, all of them similar calls to hand out promotions to the FBI immediately after a Happening.

Maybe something changed since then, or just different tactics for different situations (private server vs. public.)

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I'm not sure 117 IQ is a magic cut-off, as it seems to be something outside but probably related to IQ. I know average people who can still calculate if something in reality is true or false while ignoring media screeching. I know very intelligent people who still believe every aspect of Current Thing; they can logically debate complex work-related issues, but when it turns to politics they are retarded. More accurately, they are LLMs:

https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/2009393479886004403

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I'm in an odd place after reading this article, because I don't disagree with what you say. Yet at the same time, I'm not sure I come up with the same conclusions.

Government is really good at crushing spontaneous violent dissent, i.e. a 'chimpout.' This is why it intentionally provokes such things. The Left was in a constant state of chimping out for several decades, up to the 70s or so. Massive violence. Yet today few even remember it happened.

https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/

Government is bad at crushing opposing governmental organizations. See: organized crime, every successful revolution you mention, almost all wars since both governments still existed afterwards even if diminished or subjugated, etc.

Chimping doesn't even work for the Left. What works is having chimping and protests to give moral cover for politicians who already agree with their goals but cannot implement them w/o a cassus belli. If chimping worked by itself, a darky would be emperor of the world.

Furthermore, I don't think our audience is the chimping kind. It seems like the target audience for chimping are the LLM-people I linked above in that X-tweet. None of them will be on our side until after we win.

I agree that we shouldn't counter-signal calls, but I disagree that random violence will achieve much of value. When Mao said, "political power comes from the barrel of a gun," he meant that violence and organization needed to be wedded in order to push towards your goals. Either by itself is useless.

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