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Simon Tanner's avatar

Outstanding essay! It warmed my heart you referenced Don Pentecost. So much to unpack here. I’ll definitely save this one for the archives. Two things that came to mind, Booth succeeded in spite of being a civilian because he had the will, and he rehearsed. He planned, and he prepared, and he set the literal stage,

His training as an actor: rehearsing until it’s perfect, thinking through blocking and moving, and keeping calm/ improvising under pressure, are all skills crucial to successful operations, when militarized.

Lastly, on improvised weapons in a totalitarian state, I immediately thought of this quote:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more - we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward." - Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

In the gulag, the water was spiked with fluoride so that people did not get the idea that if you were going to die anyway, why not die fighting for your freedom?

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djealas's avatar

"Of course this is far from comprehensive…" I found that quite humorous! I was going to comment that this is one of the most comprehensive article on knife fighting I've ever read, it's almost book length too. Well written and researched. You introduced many concepts I was unaware of, and presented an excellent article on Ulysses as well.

My spouse wanted to learn about how to use a knife in the event she was confronted and attacked by a larger male, and I introduced her to the concept of closing the distance to the combatant, knife hidden in her dominant hand, latch on to him and stab as fast and as forcefully as she could for as long as she could. Mannequin training proved it worked, directly in correlation to what you describe in your article. Devastating. Well written article, many thanks.

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

Joint breaking becomes instinctual with practice. Very slow movements for practice. The hard part is not hurting your workout partner, it seems impossible, but you will see it to be true. Slow in practice, learn the limits of the body, know the limits, and then, in the moment of truth, we can give it everything we have and survive the unthinkable. Chance favours the prepared mind.

You might want start practicing this with her as well.

My podcast episode on joint breaking. https://open.substack.com/pub/soberchristiangentlemanpodcast/p/s2-ep-64-martial-combat-christian?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=31s3eo

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Bushwagon's avatar

There's good writing. There's great writing. Then there is amazing writing that includes a Corb Lund quotation. That was a great piece. I'll be thinking about it for years now I bet.

Best money I spend on substack. Please keep it coming.

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Zorost's avatar

Knives are also the weapon of choice for the discerning post-apocalyptic warrior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpVfNGWK3ko

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"Likewise they know that they’re about to fight a knife attacker, they’re gassed up and hyped and eager… They’re not unaware, or drunk, or groggy or tired, or just confused and unable to put two and two together in the 2 seconds it takes to get stabbed 4 times."

In the beginning of the MMA video one of the guys was talking about how his knee was injured because some guy lowered himself from the ceiling onto his head, then a few seconds clip of that happening is showed. In other words, trained MMA attack killer gets caught unawares and doesn't fight back instinctively, just cowers and let's himself get hurt w/o retaliating.

This is something that has to be trained into most people. Long ago I worked as a bouncer for several years, and to this day it's a bad idea to push or grab me from behind.

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

There were some great Russian Knife combat videos out there as well. Retired Spetsna special forces teaching the techniques. Just wow. Train slow fight fast.

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entropino's avatar

And they keep whinging and kvetching about that supposed monopoly of violence, this market is more accessible than most realize, thanks for showing just how much this is the case.(an aha moment for me as well)

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

Prisons are full of creative tools of violence.

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Paolo Giusti's avatar

“Hutu-Centrists” lol'ed too hard on this...

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Tim Hartin's avatar

Don’t underestimate the knife in a knife v gun situation. I had the good fortune to take the edged weapons class at Gunsite. The instructor would have been very much in agreement with this article. One of the things he talked about and demonstrated was that handguns have two flaws that are exploitable. First, they are very highly directional - a quick step/lean/duck and you can get inside the wielder’s decision cycle. Second, most people threatening you with a gun are using it to control you - if they meant to shoot you, they already would have, and changing mental gears from “control” to “kill” takes time that can be used to close with the gunfighter.

In short, within two or three long steps, in his opinion a sufficiently motivated and aggressive knife fighter has the advantage over a gun fighter.

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

Excellent points Tim.

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LSWCHP's avatar

Fantastic essay, thank you, much appreciated. I'm an knifemaker, and sure appreciated the images of the imprivsed knives.

One small point...smokeless powder doesn't "detonate" it "deflagrates" which is a technical term that means it burns very quickly. Generally, we just say it burns. It's related to subsonic vs supersonic speed of propagation.

If your smokeless powder charge detonates (ie explodes rather than burns quickly) then it will probably blow your gun to pieces in your hands.

I hope you don't mind me mentioning this...I'm a lifelong shooter and ammunition reloader.

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Kulak's avatar

Ah interesting. You're right. I knew blackpower deflagrated but didn't realize cordite and nitrocellulose derived smokeless powders still didn't just detonate.

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Thomas's avatar

This was a great analysis of knife fighting.

I would love to hear one for handguns (since that is more applicable to the USA).

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Kulak's avatar

Well its a great post about knife fighting because its such a neglected field... handguns you can read dozens of books on them and still be an amateur compared to the people who really know what they’re talking about.

I’m a student of English Lit and Political Philosophy. I like to think i see contexts and sociological dynamics others don’t... as soon as you get into established competitive technical fields with real experts my value add collapses

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

If people did not have guns or knives, rocks would be the tool of the day.

Great article.

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Fabius Minarchus's avatar

Fascinating, but the martial arts video is not entirely persuasive. MMA is still sport fighting, not real self-defense fighting. True self defense is about training reflexes to get in a *dirty* disabling shot before the knife fighter has a chance to stab: a kick below the six pack, a cupped hand to the ear, a knife hand or knuckle to the windpipe. All that armor, and the reflexes trained by sport fighting nullify true self defense moves.

What is dramatically demonstrated is the ineffectiveness of grappling vs. a knife -- at least if the knife fighter is also a martial artist, which appears to be the case in the videos. Jiu jitsu should allow one to readily disarm a hand holding a knife -- if you can grab it in time. The martial artists repeatedly failed -- despite the fact that such grabs are legit moves in UFC fighting.

Now it could be that self defense reflexes as I described above are useless against knives. I'm just saying that the video above does not demonstrate this.

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Rodrigo's avatar

Arguably the best essay on the knife in current existence. Well done.

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Kulak's avatar

Share it then! This has gone surprisingly less viral than I expected for a landmark essay

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

I made a podcast explaining the fakery online here. 95 percent of the Internet is fake; this might explain some things:

https://open.substack.com/pub/soberchristiangentlemanpodcast/p/s2-ep-27-95-percent-of-the-internet-a22?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=31s3eo

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

We never know how our content will land. Also, the Substack gremlins suppress content that is actually useful. My content is siloed because I speak the forbidden, and I am hidden in plain sight. Freedom of speech not reached they call it ....

The truths are being stomped on, and you might have just touched on the forbidden truth here. The powerful pretend guns are the problem because that is their agenda.

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Rodrigo's avatar

I posted it on a a forum and it was removed, the excuse given "copywrite material". I'll try again.

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

Lol. A little too much truth maybe.

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Boflys's avatar

In infantry school the drills would talk about the spirit of the bayonet. They’d ask “what makes the grass grow”. The reply was “BLOOD”. Check out the link for a pic.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=time+to+make+the+grass+grow+meme&t=iphone&iar=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F40%2Fef%2Fcf%2F40efcf2c2ada569b90d2a43e872406b8--us-military-the-grass.jpg

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Luke's avatar

Excellent post! Yea them Rwandans know how to party. Some estimates almost a million people killed by farm equipment. Great movie about it called Hotel Rwanda if you haven’t seen it.

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John Smith's avatar

They did a lot in that film to try to shift blame to Europeans, claiming they invented African tribal conflict, or were responsible by failing to intervene hard and fast enough.

Other than that it's a good film.

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

Yes, lots of blame whitey going on.

The CIA did fly a mind control plane over my head to kick off the violence. Worth checking out. I think it was called Project Spellbook.

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John Smith's avatar

Oh nice, like they tried in the Philippines?

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Luke's avatar

Ain’t it always smh lol

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

People improvise.

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Parker Longbaugh's avatar

" ...You can slash at their exposed veins, tendons, and nerve endings, whereas they struggle to cut through the protection."

In Filipino Martial Arts, they often refer to attacking the dominant hand that is holding a weapon as "defanging the snake." Excellent article. I witnessed a knife fight years ago between two Eastern Euros with filleting knives. Both survived but they cut each other to ribbons.

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HW's avatar

Great article, but it seems like you greatly exaggerate the effectiveness of the knife because it appeals to you philosophically. You are very right to point out the *martial artists unable to disarm knife* video as well as identifying the idiotic MA vs Knife morality play trope, but there are also tons of videos of normal people managing managing to defeat bladed attacks by men with their bare hands, improvised weapons, in small groups etc. let alone women as you claim.

Also if I remember correctly there is another segment in the ultimate martial artist show (maybe a different season where two martial artists basically defeat 2 or more simulated knife attackers though they "succumb" to their wounds.

Also not to sound like an Aikido fag (never liked it never done it) but there is a pressure tested style of Aikido where the competition consists of one stabber (albeit with bad form required by rules but with lots of practice) and one grappler alternating, some of the counters are actually very well employed by amateurs who pressure test knife defense unlike 99% of real and fake martial artists

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