Short Take: Zapruder's Bastards... No there was almost certainly not a Second Charlie Kirk Shooter
“Tyler Robbinson was a patsy”
So the guy who lived 4 hours away, was terminally online, and lived in a series of cohabitations with troons and family...
Just did nothing in the 4 hour window on either side of a mid-day assassination, was neither at work, school nor a coffee shop on a Wednesday, and posted nothing online from a home IP Address that’d give him an alibi, spent no money anywhere with a credit or debit card that’d also give him an alibi... And also wasn’t spending that time sleeping with someone who’d testify and give him an alibi?
AND he just happens to look exactly like the secret Glowie super-agent shooter they caught on Camera?
“No you see it was Tyler on the roof, but the secret second shooter”
Why would you posit a second shooter if Tyler’s on the roof? What? did they trick him up there expecting a surprize party at a school he didn’t go to?
“No tyler was “a” shooter, but the real second shooter”
So Tyler’s up there planning to shoot Charlie Kirk, looks through his scope at 200 meters, Kirk behaves oldly and his body does something weird after a bang Tyler can’t place... And instead of taking his shot to hit Kirk before whatever’s happening moves kirk out of his sightline (producing two gunshot wounds)... What? he just chickens out when he sees Kirk behave oddly and then is surprized to learn Kirk died from a gunshot he didn’t fire after the fact?
The conspiracy surrounding the Kirk assassination isn’t all this magic bullet nonsense that people are mining for content... replaying videos already posted to Twitter and going “Now look closer” is the cheapest laziest content you can create, and takes no effort.
The conspiracy is the Feds are still basically running cover for the fact that half of all the Trans people in Utah seemingly knew this was going to happen and were posting about it in advance (as 4chan noticed immediately), did not conceal their intent really at all... Somehow never got a door knock or anything related to the fact they were all largely openly talking about political assassination (almost as if someone had told local PD to back off, when 1 of the 20+ people who knew inevitably leaked)... And that if 20+ Right Wingers had been this brazen about assassinating a left winger and openly celebrated it after betraying foreknowledge of the assassintion... about 10-30 people would be arrested by now on co-conspirator and accessory chargees.
“But Mossad! The plane that flew away! Charlie’s security guard with the folded arms”
Ok how and why? Ho do you shoot someone even from 10 feet away with your arms fold and your head looking in the wrong direction with a non-conventional concealed handgun? Have you ever fired a normal handgun? Hip firing doesn’t really work even when you are looking... even from 10 feet. You’re going to gamble your freedom, in front of 100 cameras, on a trick under the arm not-looking shot with a custom secret handgun with non-standard ergonomics?
“The Camera behind Kirk... It was a trick gun”
Why would you create a James bond spy camera that could get lost, or stollen in the confusion, or noticed by charlie or one of his friends before the hit... When you’re already arranging a shooter on a roof and already have someone with a rifle at 200 meters? Why would you just keep increasing the exposure and the number of things that could go wrong and the number of corrupt people you have to pay off and keep track of lest they go off the reservation?
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The Kennedy Assassination it actually made sense for there to be multiple shooters... In “Fry the Brain” Special Forces Sniper John West lays out a theory there were half a dozen different sniper teams trying to get Kennedy, and goes through the list of Mafia hitmen who later confessed to being second shooters, casings and other oddities found in the vicinity of Delany plaza sometime years later... Etc.
And the reason this makes sense in the Kennedy assassination is because if Kennedy SURVIVED the attempt, and maybe just lost a limb, or saw his wife die... He’d be out for revenge. And he was mobbed up to hell and back, and charasmatic as could be, and a combat vet himself that he wouldn’t have hessitated to just use the Irish mafia to torture the truth out of people, give Hitlerian speeches about how America demands vengeance and all the rot is going to burn, and generally probably massacre half the non-irish criminal organizations in America in extrajudicial killings by his families friends , and probably start a war or two after probably killing or torturing his way through the US intel agencies... He was a real president. He was popular. He had people who could act as paramilitaries for him... He already had a good guess who his enemies were. And his BROTHER was the Attorney General and competent at weilding power.
He needed to die or everyone behind the Kennedy assassination was going to be hunted down, killed horribly and their bodies ditched in a woodlot Jimmy Hoffa style within like a month...
Charlie Kirk however... was NOT an American Warlord. He was a guy who politically organized and gave speeches... Kirk probably would have just caved if he was merely wounded and then a rich donor or someone showed up at the hospital saying “we won’t miss next time”... Even if it was a glowing-as-could-be intel agency hit, there’s no reason whatsoever to have multiple shooters...
If there was a conspiracy, the conspiracy is almost certainly that some intel agency noticed these nutter planning this... And then cleared the path, prevented normal law enforcement from arresting them or just door knocking and spooking them, made contact to preassure them and encourage them on, and play mentor/fellow traveller... And then disappeared claiming “lone wolf” when Robinson inevitably got caught, and are still basically covering up just how many people openly knew, provided aid and comfort, and were posting about it on their trans discord servers... Because they don’t want 80+% of Utah Antifa rolled up... They want them to be assets in the future that they can weild against RWers again.
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“But the Bullet is Magic in the official Story. There’s no exit would!?”
Ya this is dumb… But there’s a reason its dumb.
notice the operative words: ““Absolute Miracle””, “Surgeon told TPUSA”.
A miracle is a violation of the laws of nature; and as a firm and unalterable experience has established these laws, the proof against a miracle, from the very nature of the fact, is as entire as any argument from experience can possibly be imagined.
-David Hume
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Lets think of what physically has to happen for there to be no exit wound… You can look up lots of videos online of hunters shooting boar and elk and other large game with 30.06… And almost every time, on even really massive animals there’s an exit wound, a fairly large one. However when the round hits bone it often breaks the bone, deflects, and then creates a weird exit wound elsewhere. Ussually this relatively close to the original, but sometime you get oddities.
Now Charlie Kirk was shot from a downwards angle into the neck just above the shoulder…
Now I’m afraid I’m going to speak ill of the dead ladies and gentlemen, you see Charlie Kirk actually had a character flaw, something his mother should have beaten out of him but didn’t…
Charlie Krik had bad posture.
When Charlie Kirk was shot downwards through the lower neck the thing immediately behind his neck, was his shoulder.
Remember it’s very rare, vanishingly so, for a round as powerful as 30.06 to be stopped by bones… Even layered bones like Collarbone, spine, and shoulderblade… But it is VERY common for it to deflect and add like 20-40 degrees…
Now I’m so… So sorry, I hate this type of content… red lines over low res screenshots…. But If the bullet hits Charlie’s bone… Where does it deflect?
Remember the operative words of the Tweet “absolute miracle” “Surgeon told TPUSA”.
This wasn’t a statement by the FBI but rather someone at TPUSA who spoke to the Surgeon…
Now Imagine you’re the surgeon operating on Charlie Kirk and its hopeless and he comes in basically dead and there’s nothing you can do… And you have to tell his friends, religious people, deeply distraught, and maybe you have to answer their questions after the fact when they reach out to you again.
Are TPUSA people trying to play private investigator and dig out all the ballistic details to clear up conspiracy theories or track down the real killers?
No they’re a religious conservative organization and, as the post above displays… They’re largely looking for tidbits to comfort themselves, and promote Charlie’s religious message… As much as YOU might be a amature ballistics experts and watch ballistic gel explode in your free time on youtube… They probably don’t. They’re looking for miracles, like religious people do with absolutely EVERY bloody shooting or event (see all the “bible stopped the bullet” stories)… And indeed they want things to NOT add up SO THAT there can be a miracle.
And despite the fact that you are a guntuber fan and conspiracy obsessive who wants to track down every little ballistic detail and crack the case… They don’t care… And the Surgeon really wants to just get out of there, since every second he speaks to them there’s some liability risk, and also he doesn’t know these people, and doesn’t want to get sucked into comforting them for the next hour or become the target of their wrath or suspiscion…
So when they ask about an exit wound? Or he mentions it briefly and they interpret it? What happens? What sticks in this game of Telephone between the Body, the Surgeon, The TPUSA friend, and then finally Fox news?
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If the bullet deflected and there actually was an exit wound no one saw… because it was in Charlie’s ass? Would you repeat that? Especially with leftists looking to mock him? If the bullet shredded like 8 vertebrae, ripped apart a lung and stopped in his bladder making him piss himself.. Would you repeat that?
Or Across the 3+ people repeating it and turning it into a message that’s supposed to go out on FOX and protect Charlie’s memory and create “unity”, drive TPUSA donations, and bring people to Charlie’s faith..
Do you think this story of bullet ripping apart Charlie’s organs and making him defecate himself before coming to rest next to his prostate… Do think maybe that story gets massaged into Charlie’s body just being tough enough it stopped the bullet and saved other lives, through the miraculous will of our lord and saviour?
It was 10 DAYS after the shooting of Kirk that this little ballistic detail was released… after everyone started asking really specific wound ballistic questions…
It could be that’s because it was really a secret expierimental round they specifically chose that was way smaller than the gun they selected plant… Why? Why wouldn’t you try to match the plant gun to the round you’re actually going to hit him with?
OR it could be because the actual wound ballistics are grusome and humiliating, and it wasn’t the FBI or court filings saying it… It was Charlie’s friends trying to protect his memory by repeating what the Doctor told them and massaging out all the gorey details.
Just saying…
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But really the thing I want you to remember is to really judge the quality of the Conspiracy content you watch.
Is the person actually checking and trying to construct the crime and take in all the info…. Or are they just playing the same clip you’ve already seen a dozen time and going “Slow it down” “now really look closely” “that doesn’t add up”
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I’ve seen the laziest content, with zero analysis, and zero regard for the evidence that exists go one for 20 minutes not saying anything whilst raking in super-chats and repeating theories that were already disproven within the first 5 minutes.
Because Conspiracies and slowing down video are easy content slop. Trivially made with zero attempt to relate any of the claims or evidence to any of the other evidence, and no attempt to even really develop a model or theory of anything that happened… And not even an attempt to really pin blame, because that might alienate audiences when you could just be raking in the money.
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Its even worse than mere grifting becuase there are actual conspiracies and false flags and various nerfarious tactical espianage actions that do occur… And these people act as chaff confusing and misdirecting what should be serious scrutiny and righteous anger by lazily larping Oliver Stone’s JFK for clicks.
To the point where I half suspect there are billionaires and government offices paying those super-chats and sending donations to the worst conspiracy slop accounts so as to artificially boost the noise to signal ratio and create cover for when they do commit horrendous crimes.
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I want this to be the last post I make on the conspiracy side of the Kirk assassination… but it won’t be. Every time something comes up on my feed a million dumb arguments and theories, and then I immediately come up with paragraphs worth of argument why that wouldn’t work, or violates all sane operational planning, or is just creating exposure for no reason…
For example we basically KNOW Robinson was the one on the roof, and not some super secret double agent, because no Case Officer in the world is going to PLAN for their super secret agent to get off a roof by dropping 6-8 meters and risking an escape ending ankle role.
If that was James Bond and he had just landed wrong and broke his ankle, he could have been on the ground with a broken ankle unable to run in a Conceal carry state, 200-300 meters from an angry crowd… (which a real special forces sniper would also not shoot from 200 meters, they’d try to place themselves far further back since good rifles can shoot 800-1600 meters).
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But there’s a million things like this… Plans that make zero sense, evidence left dangling, theorizing entirely without evidence, theorizing from someone’s hands moving that “That’s the signal” (signal for what, why? Snipers have spotters not signal men standing next to visible targets)
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I could go on… But its just infuriating… This is why we lose.
And then when actual smart autists call out the bullshit or do legwork the slop accounts will attack them for “defending the conspiracists” not even to defend their seed-oil brained gullible audience, but because attacking the decent theorist is content in itself.
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Watch… All those superchats going to people doing nothing, and this post will make zero dollars.
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>and then I immediately come up with paragraphs worth of argument
Feed the things that are worth feeding. If trantifa knowing about it before hand yet not catching charges is the real conspiracy, then write about that.