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Bryce E. 'Esquire' Rasmussen's avatar

And while I think upon everything you said, I offer you this: exactly how are we to rebel against rockets, bombs, nukes, tanks, drones and so on? With pitchforks and squirrel rifles? Do we just run at them blindly, not even knowing who the actual targets are?

No. we do something else. We evolve. Like Gen Z, who have discovered a neat trick - an American in those HI-B's has to be hired before an Indian so the Indians hide job postings. And what does Gen Z do? Make an AI that hunts down those job postings and then apply. Indians are smart enough to know that lawsuits could follow, as Americans are a bit litigious. Will it work? Does it work? Maybe. But it points the way. Jeff Evely who responded to the Nova Scotia hiking ban while in a rather wet season, deliberately provoked them into fining him 28 thousand plus and showed the fine and kept walking in the woods and has gone viral, even forcing the politicos to change their statement and look foolish. Oh sure, the ban will stay. These people are stupid.

One man thinking like 5G warfare. We can't do it with blood anymore, they made sure of that. But they done fucked up. They kept pounding us. Oppressing us, creating an environment that forced at least some to evolve. We watched, we learned, we got smart.

Having said that, I do think some guerrilla style rebelling does work. Like the Irish. Burning certain buildings, picking individual fights. They know it's mostly low IQ who won't get it, but eventually will just leave because it's too rough. So, applied revolution with agency, each of us doing what we can. There are those who can only shout from the rooftops. And there are those who can take on more.

5G asymmetrical warfare isn't just an advanced military with training. It's us. We have to. Because an open large scale rebellion? They'll just, if they can, take us down. Force doctrine. Those with the means, the force, make the doctrines. We have to fight smart, in little bits, and dirty. Hmn. I started out in disagreement and wound up in something like a bit more agreement. Hell of a good chunk of work to do that.

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Kulak's avatar

I've written a book length piece on exactly this question.

It is indeed the most popular thing I've ever done:

https://www.anarchonomicon.com/p/the-warlords-reading-list-by-anarchonomicon

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did jj tie buckle's avatar

Im genuinely curious why so many Americans believe the combat forces of the military would turn on them so easily? These are American patriots that swore to die for the constitution and got a job where that was a possibility. These aren't adim and logistics people that joined for free college and health care.

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Anonymous's avatar

Whiskey Rebellion, 1794; Sherman's March to the Sea, 1864; Great Railroad Strike, 1877; Pullman Strike, 1894; Ludlow Massacre, 1914; Bonus Army, 1932; Detroit Riots, 1967; Kent State & Jackson State Shootings, 1970; LA Riots, 1992; January 6th, 2021, among various others.

They are the same guys who shot Ashli Babbitt in the neck. They are the guys who trained and protected the afghan warlords that spent their off-hours r*ping bacha bazi boys. The US armed forces would massacre US civilian men women and children en masse with barely a moment's hesitation. They have done so many times in the past, and they will do it again.

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did jj tie buckle's avatar

Thanks for giving me some events to refresh on.

I agree that the military/police has been used against the civilian population in unjust manners.

Do you think if these events were larger in scale, armed and conducted coordinated attacks instead of riots and protests the outcomes would have been the same? Would the full conventional force be used? Would any of the personnel refuse orders? Im not trying to be antagonistic this is genuine curiosity.

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Anonymous's avatar

If the events were larger in scale, if there were a significant amount of genuine rebels doing genuinely rebellious things, then I figure the best comparison would probably be to the American civil war itself, rather than any of these.

In a larger scale scenario, it would be so easy for military personnel to see themselves as the Union Army, and I'd expect their commanding officers & the rest of the regime to reinforce that impression with propaganda. Since the civil war, the US has taken steps (1903 militia act, 1916 national defense act, integrated units, etc) to federalize the military, and to prevent divided loyalties, so I would also expect the modern US armed forces to be even more loyal to the regime than the Union Army was.

And I may be a pessimist for this last part, but I would expect the "oath to the constitution" to end up manifesting as "loyalty to the most constitutionally legitimate regime", even if that regime has only the most tenuous thread of perceived legal legitimacy, and zero or less moral legitimacy.

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did jj tie buckle's avatar

I think you have substance to be pessimistic. Im more optimistic but that could be out of ignorance and bias. Your thought on "oath to the constitution" manifesting into loyalty to the regime is a great point. The propaganda and mob mentality is a crazy thing. Thanks for the thoughtful response.

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John Smith's avatar

How could sherman's march to the sea be larger in scale?

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John Smith's avatar

They swore to die for the constitution, but after hurricane katina they happily broke one of the clearest and simplest clauses in said constitution and went door to door forcibly disarming the public.

To my knowledge not a single person refused.

Ultimately any army is geared to obey orders, constitutions offer no real protection.

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MT's avatar

Because history proves that to be true. Time after time after time after time

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John Smith's avatar

> And while I think upon everything you said, I offer you this: exactly how are we to rebel against rockets, bombs, nukes, tanks, drones and so on? With pitchforks and squirrel rifles? Do we just run at them blindly, not even knowing who the actual targets are?

This is a false dilemma.

The irish rebelled against a superpower for centuries armed with home-made weapons and hand-downs. We still won (to a degree) and can win again.

Turns out all the funding in the world isn't enough to beat a people who refuse to be beaten.

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Bryce E. 'Esquire' Rasmussen's avatar

I’m in the mood to agree. So what changed my mind? St. John’s Cross. I wrote off the cuff, did not think it through terribly well. Upon seeing what is being called the quiet revolution in Britain, I am thinking of a few things. One is the symbolism in the flag. Around 95% or more of CCTV cameras have been destroyed, meaning that the authorities are finding it difficult to locate who did it and it’s not online so it’s easily tracked. The number of flags and persistence in putting them back up, sometimes in the presence of the police is also a statement.

As we all know from our history, flags were carried into battle, prominently displayed. It’s a clarion call for justice and a warning to politicians and their cohorts in crime and they would do well to not ignore this. I couldn’t tell you what actions will be taken. I can easily see however that people are thinking outside of the box. Burning Bright would say that the people now control the narrative and the battle space.

You have the high ground here. I do understand what you are saying. I think Ireland, Britain, Scotland, maybe even France have made themselves known. I would say they may well be far less afraid of the powers that be than the powers that be have thought.

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Mohd. Saifullah bin Majid's avatar

Wanton violence only provide the establishment with the "for the greater good" justification for more draconian laws that further entrench its rule. Targeted violence strikes fear in the establishment, especially when the violence striked someone they personally know. Constant exposure to such violence at personal level feeds their paranoia to bypass consent manufacturing and this exposes their hypocrisy each time a new draconian law is passed as well as fueling further resentment each time the limited public resources are diverted away from critical public service to enforce this new law. Not to mention them beginning to question the validity of their own intel sources.

Ultimately, every successful revolution requires the population, especially among the aspiring elites, to completely distrust the current system AND developing trust in the alternative parallel system. Having ~20% of the working adult population fully committed to the cause is sufficient to tip the scale in favor of the cause. Remember: War is an extension of politics, not a race to pile up the most body counts. It's about breaking the opponent's will to fight and/or the opponent's economy to sustain the fight.

Sometimes, it doesn't take bullets and bombs to do so. On rare occasions, it can be as comical as someone sending a freaking poltergeist to violently haunt a government office! This just happened yesterday in my country. The department's entire high-ranking bureaucrats freaked out to the point of releasing an official press statement announcing a major cleansing operation just now! I'm guessing one of those corrupt mofos must have stiffed someone since it's only their floor of that office building being violently haunted by that (literally) floating ball of fire from dusk till dawn... Oh, yes... There's a hi-res video of that paranormal entity 🤣

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rajm2's avatar

In typical fashion the NY Post link about child rapists being freed has been 404’d. Excellent essay btw.

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Mohd. Saifullah bin Majid's avatar

And FOR WHAT did the Americans Rebel?

To break free of the usurious monetary system that was unilaterally imposed on them via the Currency Act

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Ari's avatar

Amazing article as usual

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TC's avatar
Aug 19Edited

Honorary American

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Richard's avatar

I thought you might enjoy this little excerpt from: Pilgrim Son - John Masters. An autobiography (book three) of a British immigrant to America (Rockland County, New York) in the 1950s.

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John Smith's avatar

I think you hit the nail on the head with your previous essay about young men not rebelling because they won't be honoured for doing it.

In any one rebellion only ~3% of the population directly engage in fighting, but at least 50% of the population must be either neutral or nominally supporting them. Men will crawl through filth and torture to fight for those who love them, but they won't lift a finger for people who hate them.

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MT's avatar

3 paragraphs in and I had to start over for how much fire is being spit

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Louis Wain's avatar

William Brewster is my like 20x great grandfather

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Harland's avatar

Why are they always so UGLY?

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